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Remove the list view threshold (5000 by default)

This limit has always been a bit laughable, and is even more so as we develop more client side applications. In SharePoint 2007 we didn't have this limit and were allowed to make our own mistakes. Now that hardware is so much more powerful, we need this limit removed so that we can build enterprise-class applications.

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    sympmarc shared this idea  ·   ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    We are changing the status here back to “Working on it”, as we are not yet done with all that we want to do here, and as many of you have pointed this out. We apologize for prematurely changing the status to done, please keep the feedback coming.

    The video on https://myignite.microsoft.com/videos/53861 (focusing on large lists at 42 minutes and 25 seconds) describes some of the changes that we delivered back in the second half of 2017:
    - Modern UI now has a lot of support for adding indexes to large lists and libraries on the fly, reducing the number of throttling errors experienced by our users, and some new UI for browsing through items in large lists with our paging model
    - SharePoint runs predictive indexing jobs to automatically add indexes as lists get larger based on your view definitions, and updates these indexes when you add/update your views
    - We now support being able to manually add indexes to lists as large as 20,000 items (increased from 5,000 previously).

    What we are working on now:
    - We are working on adding the capability to be able to manually add indexes to lists of all sizes (i.e. larger than 20,000 items.)
    - We will also enable this capability for predictive indexing soon thereafter so your views will automatically cause the right indexes to be added to your lists.
    - Starting with the February release of the Office 365 Excel client, you will be able to export your full list instead of getting cut off part of the way through.

    In our backlog:
    - Being able to index/sort/filter by lookup column types (like person, lookup or managed metadata columns) without being throttled.
    - Making sure that our REST APIs support querying in ways that will guarantee that the call will not be throttled.

    Again, we regret that the item was set to “done” before we were done with the full range of changes we wanted to do. We are taking this issue seriously, and are continuing to piece together changes that ultimately result in an experience for our users where this is no longer an issue.

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      • Loren Schooley commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Here's a idea. While loading a list, just 5000 objects appear with a prompt that says, "Sorry, due to limitations we can only show 5000 of your 5001 items. Please refer to this help document to resolve view and filter options." This would be better than just locking you out completely.

      • Barbara Garrett commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The issue of displaying the list has been improved, but the issue still remains that as soon as you exceed 5000 records - you cannot change the views nor create new ones. This is a fundamental requirement for end-users - and a procedure on SQL can be done to do the paging that you created on the list display. Of course - you cannot download 1 million records/metadata in 1 postback, it would be detrimental to the network - but as a web coder and an SQL DBA - I do know that it is not that difficult to provide procedures to bring the data down. At the very least, allow modifications of views and put the limitation of batches not to exceed 5000.

      • Steven Derveaux commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        "Boom! It's Done", my first thought was: "Yes! the limit is removed or at least multiplied by 5" but after reading more I came to the conclusion that nothing has changed in the end.

        "Boom! It is just a joke". Hmm, I'm not laughing...

      • Fanny commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Why SQL has such limitation? This is not make sense a DB server only support scan less than 5,000 rows.

      • w brewer commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        So it takes 2 and a half years to tell us you're not going to do anything about this? And you pretend it's resolved like we're going to believe that? Disgraceful but oh so typical of this cr*p service.

      • Michael commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Just so people aren't honeydicked by your misleading "Boom! It's Done". The issues IS NOT FIXED!!! Microsoft failed to deliver on this and are abandoning all hope. The SQL limit is a sad excuse and shouldn't be used as a technical limitation.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Great news that the limit has been removed!!!!!
        On the other hand, it still does not work with views showing documents outside folders which would be REALLY USEFUL!!!

      • Rob Bowman commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        So, after all this build up we get a simple - sorry we can't get this done. Especially when MS continues to advertise as a Content and Document Management Leader. Greatly disappointed.

      • Ryan commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        "(noting that SQL will never scan more than 5k rows"

        Can you explain why SQL will never scan more than 5k rows?

      • Tereris commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Please, do something about this huge problem. Why not a whole new system for filesharing?

      • Daniel commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This limit is terrible and the fact that once you are over the limit you can't index or view the data to reduce the number is crazy. We are exploring other alternatives, so we can migrate away from SP, even though we have been customers since SP2007.

      • Freg commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Please, we want to move all our files to SharePoint Online, but have about 10 sites, some with 30-50 000 files on it. What should we do to prepaire us. We just want a simple file storage?

      • Sigge commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This is not acceptable to our organization, which has over 20,000 files in each work area, already divided. If you have problems with SQL, do something about it now. We pay a lot of money for the service. It's a joke in 2018 ....

      • Justin commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Can a feature be added to some queries such as the managed checked out versions so they can bypass the threshold limit? That function is crippled by the threshold limit.

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